Awesome video. ? I ... By: rebeccaBGroup. on 27 Jan 12, 16:09:33 Awesome video. ? I do not have horses, but love to watch the videos. I see so many things that relate to how Cesar Milan uses with his dog techniques. I have used the exercise, discipline and affection with my dog and it really works. My dog and have a tight bond now, and my husband just doesn't get it and is jealous. That's certainly not my intention. Animals live in the moment, and as humans we should too. I respect those who "get it". Cruelty serves no master.
Put the name of the ... By: Pachetaa. on 13 Dec 11, 23:18:08 Put the name of the song in descripcion? please !
I hate videos ... By: Pachetaa. on 13 Dec 11, 23:17:13 I hate videos without the song´s name? :(((
Did anyone notice ... By: levans0277. on 27 Jul 11, 15:03:05 Did anyone notice the man & horse are working in an open area that is not fenced? If the hosre was not happy, he could easily take off. I have a Lipizzan gelding that I have done similiar? things with. This video inspires me to expand what we have accomplished so far.
It's so funny to ... By: mooie135. on 18 Jul 11, 06:04:43 It's so funny to see all the different perspectives..... You can show the same thing to a group of people? and everyone interprets it differently depending on their level of awareness. Spins me out!!
...and you don't ... By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:53:32 ...and you don't end up with a suppressed horse. You end up with an equal partner that willingly recognizes that you are the leader. Not their master they must submit to for fear of being run ragged. You end up being their leader, but their friend as well. Some one they? can play with but also someone they want to please. I rarely need anything more than just myself when doing ground work with my horse. My horse half the time treats work in the round pen as play time.
...will ever work ... By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:47:08 ...will ever work to anything besides the person's disadvantage. The first farrier I used when I got him tried bullying him into behaving. My horse got worse every time he came out. The third and final time I used that farrier my horse threw out the guy's back. Every time my horse manages to push my buttons, I just have to tie him somewhere and just? walk away, because once I start getting into a mindset to force him to do what I want, it's just game over. You use join up correctly...
that? the person ... By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:42:31 that? the person should ever move in and apply pressure on the horse. Join up is not something that can be properly utilized with a horse that does not change gaits and direction easily without the person having to move in to apply pressure. Proper join up is something that can be done in any space - round pen, arena, pasture. It does not force submission. My horse is anything but submissive. With him our relationship is very much so I ask, I don't demand. Bullying is not something...
Proper join up does ... By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:37:13 Proper join up does not run run run run run the horse until? they submit, nor is it a one way street when it comes to respect. When a horse really doesn't want to come in, there is a point long before running them hard when it's time to just move on to something else and come back to the round pen later. Respect in join up is a two way street, the horse respects the person's space, and the person respects the horse's space as well. It's only when the horse moves into the person's space
... the horse' ... By: Marixxen2. on 25 Jun 11, 12:55:56 ... the horse' natural pride and "noble" being. You can see how this horse allow itself to leave? and voluntary come back WITHOUT submitting (something which isn't allowed in "proper" join-up as you call it) The horse can of course "recover" from join-up and be playful, but the concept of join-up is to keep the horse submited and the be a "leader" (or just a "bully" the horse has to obey )
yes, join-up is ... By: Marixxen2. on 25 Jun 11, 12:46:02 yes, join-up is about choice, but when the options are as few as they are in a roundpen, there're little to choose between. I have used join-up myself, and know how it's done and the concept of it. The horse has only a few opitions. Run og submit. Respekt is earned through trust,? not pressure. And respekt is not subordination and obedience. It has to be mutual. And forcing someone to rund, is not mutual respekt. Beacuse join-up is about submition, it will suppress the horse' ....
obviously you have ... By: FredTheCloud. on 23 Jun 11, 19:00:10 obviously you have never seen join up used properly if your reason for thinking it has not been used with this horse because the horse is "happy and playful." Join up is a lot about choice when used properly. The horse has to choose to accept the person as the herd leader, and choose to want to come in and be near that person and to follow them freely. I personally use join up and I can assure you my? horse is quite happy and playful
Beautiful. I agree ... By: MomentsCherished. on 01 Jun 11, 20:29:42 Beautiful. I agree,? he could have done without the tapping of the stick, but whatever he does is obviously working for him and his beautiful horse. Whatever floats his figurative boat.
This is a dream of ... By: rarebird62. on 31 May 11, 00:49:37 This is a dream of mine to do this with my horse and pony would be just absolutely awsome..... I LOVE THIS VIDEO I'm posted it on? FB many times....This is a dream...my dream with My horse.
Amazing! I reallt ... By: ThePippers. on 23 Apr 11, 21:22:40 Amazing! I reallt lost my words.. It's much like seeing Alexander playing with his horses :D ?
How can anybody? ... By: enmonjea. on 28 Mar 11, 14:08:53 How can anybody? look at this and not see the horse is having a blast playing with him? Gorgeous video.
where did? you get ... By: Marixxen2. on 04 Mar 11, 14:47:54 where did? you get the video? =)
Totally....? awesome By: isanyone1niceanymore. on 17 Feb 11, 02:45:51 Totally....? awesome
I agree with at ... By: Marixxen2. on 12 Feb 11, 16:42:12 I agree with at every point, exept one. i doubt join-up has? been used on this horse. The horse looks, to me, way to happy and playful for that. This horse truly has a choise, and he knows =)
ok...? Who the hell ... By: Marixxen2. on 12 Feb 11, 16:37:35 ok...? Who the hell dislike this???!!!!
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Therefore, the horses reward at the end of this video is coming back to its trainer. And because it hasn't been hit with the stick as a punishment, this horse will never associate the stick with anything negative, and therefore will not go 'dead' to its touch. The horse will simply view the stick as an aid, similar to the way that a rider uses his/her legs to? give aids when riding.
(continued..) If ... By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:10:17 (continued..) If you prefer, it's almost a kind of join up technique. You push the horse away to make him/her believe that you are a good herd leader. Once the horse has decided you are a good herd leader, it will give you signs that it wants to be friends, and that's when you? let the horse come back to you.
(...continued) With ... By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:09:36 (...continued) With trick ponies, the stick is used as a main aid. It commands the horse and? it is also used as a punishment. If the horse does something wrong, it is hit with the stick. Therefore, the horse associates the stick with negativity and pain.
Throughout this video, the horse communicates with the trainer through body language. You see the way the horse licks its lips constantly? That's a sign that the horse wants to 'become one' with the trainer and be with him.
I'm no expert, but ... By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:08:26 I'm no expert, but this is the way I've interpreted it:
I can understand your point, but in this video the stick is not used as a punishment or even as an aid. Here, you see the stick being used as a guide. The main aids are coming from the humans general communication (body language and voice commands). The stick itself is simply used to give the horse more precise aids where necessary, if the horse gets confused or doesn't understand what the trainer wants.
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Mares teach their foals to yield from birth. Using natural horsemanship it is easy to teach foals to trust you and yield to your feel. Leading, ponying and going over obstacles early makes it easy to start them once they are grown.
I'm searching for ... By: teresaschihuahuas. on 16 Sep 11, 14:14:12 I'm searching for information on a condition called pipacytis. I'm sure I'm spelling it wrong. Cant find any info on the internet about it. I'm told it's food related but can't find remedy. Heard about Copper X?? Any help or direction? to site or corrected spelling would be appreciated greatly. Love your horses! :) You can view my foal on my channel. Mom's? a standardbred. Dad's a Tennessee Walker.
I remember my first ... By: mysticpasos. on 25 Jun 11, 13:53:13 I remember my first horse as a child. My God father bred his horses so we had foals around. My Mom thought horses big and smelly. The thing is.. when I grew up and left for university, I didn't take my horse with me and guess who ended up taking care of him? My mom wasn't a horse person, but she fed them daily and called the vet to put Prince down when he was unable to? get to his feet, remembered my boy loved sweets, bought and fed him his favorite candy bars at the end.
ohhh wow ahh well ... By: 1holliehorsecrazy1. on 25 Jun 11, 08:42:58 ohhh wow ahh well one day it will happen,my mare is 13 and has never had a foal before so i would like? it to be soon, only problem is my parents ahhh.
It does make such a ... By: mysticpasos. on 25 Jun 11, 00:30:12 It does make such a difference. Mystic is my levels horse (L3 graduates) and he loves me, but the horses I have raised from birth think being with me is the BEST thing. They beg to come out and be ridden. They? offer tricks, follow me around the pasture, try to herd me away from Mystic and Tori, bang on the fence if I take another horse, parallel park at liberty for me to get on if they see me climb a fence. They are my equine kids.
i would love to put ... By: 1holliehorsecrazy1. on 24 Jun 11, 21:52:56 i would love to put my mare in foal and have the experience? of raising and bringing up a foal the parelli way :) what a great start to your foals life! thanks for posting!! :)
Wish I was in the ... By: happylistowelraces. on 15 Jun 11, 09:40:29 Wish I was in the states and could spend time with you.........up to twelve months makes absolute sense and is a natural process. Thanks? and good luck.
Thank you and i ... By: myahorning12. on 10 Apr 11, 01:28:00 Thank you and i have been waiting for this day my whole life,? well 12 months
Congratulations on ... By: mysticpasos. on 10 Apr 11, 00:59:52 Congratulations on your new foal. I'm envious of you and the fun the two of you will have. You are wise to take advantage of his curiosity? to teach him to yield to pressure and trust you. Well done!
i have a horse that ... By: myahorning12. on 09 Apr 11, 21:43:44 i have a horse that was just? born today on april 1,2011 at 2am in the morning. and we put a halter on him for the first time and took it off him in a 5 minutes or so. and he was excelint. he is really really tall for a new born colt
Please.. tell me ... By: horshooer. on 12 Mar 11, 22:34:25 Please.. tell me you know someone that needs a person to clean stalls.. I can work my way up from there....? I'm pushing 53 so I'm old.. but I'm tired of learning to work on boats and outboard motors... horses are my only love...
Not quite sure what ... By: kaeso100. on 06 Mar 11, 18:53:22 Not quite sure what you mean. Would love if you could point me in the direction of a vid to show it. He had his 1st saddlecloth and surcingle on today, good as gold. Once the ground dries up over here would like to try the 'falling leaf' exercise.....once I'm sure exactly what it is!.... He? does follow me around alot already so I'm sure he would love to try it at speed!
Colts love to test ... By: mysticpasos. on 05 Mar 11, 05:02:43 Colts love to test boundaries and that continues as he gets bigger and stronger. One of my favorite young stud exercises is falling leaf. Walk forward &send your horse in front of you. When it approaches the end of the line, disengage the hind quarters, ask it to move its shoulders over and re-send it. Repeat until the horse wants to move with you. You can do this? exercise at a gallop with roll backs changing directions on a 22 foot line with a young stallion, never pulling on him.
I've got a little ... By: kaeso100. on 04 Mar 11, 20:17:27 I've got a little colt myself, 5 1/2 months old and pretty unhandled when I got him. Sensitive but bold nature at the same time. 8 months old? now and a little darling. He tries his luck now and then, but hey, who doesn't! By reading his body language, energy, judgement and facial expressions and only training when he is in the right state of mind to accept and learn, has made him a pleasure to own. Defo agree with not using intimidation unless absolutely necessary, sometimes it is!
I agree. It is ... By: mysticpasos. on 12 Jan 11, 02:49:04 I agree. It is common sense to set things up that human interactions resonate with? the young horse's nature, appeal to its sense of curiousity and play, build trust and respect, rather than intimidation and confusion. Playing with a young horse this way is common sense and it is also natural horsemanship. Love, language and leadership in equal doses.
I see this as ... By: kaeso100. on 11 Jan 11, 22:08:32 I see this as common sense, not necessarily 'natural' horsemanship.?
Now your on the ... By: horshooer. on 05 Oct 10, 02:30:13 Now your on the right path!! Its not really a big step? from pressure to touch... from there it is even a smaller step from touch to voice... then comes voice to whisper... horses hear very well.. thus the horse whisper. :) congrats!!..
Thanks again for ... By: mysticpasos. on 04 Oct 10, 07:17:59 Thanks again for the compliment. Mystic? and I just got back from a Leslie Desmond clinic that blew me away. Like seeing horses in black & white & she suddenly showed me them in color. Amazing. Instead of pressure and release, she just uses feel and release. She showed us how we were blocking the horse's vision by standing near its head or in its blind spot, or blocking its movement by our energy. She co-authored True Horsemanship through Feel with Bill Dorrance. Read it.
;; then? the grey ... By: KisaKittyLove. on 01 Oct 10, 23:55:35 ;; then? the grey horse is adorable :)
Holy Cats!! you ... By: horshooer. on 01 Oct 10, 20:04:02 Holy Cats!! you made Level 3+ Parelli ?? most folks here don't know how much work and devotion that takes!! But? I do...
Not to put you down ... By: horshooer. on 01 Oct 10, 19:52:52 Not to put you down .. because many people (even horse people) do? not know this... While there are many different shades of grey, there are no adult white horses... once in a while a foal is born white... and it comes with what is known as the "lethal white gene" and it does not survive...
ahh so true!! You ... By: horshooer. on 01 Oct 10, 19:38:41 ahh so true!! You should never get? done learning new things about horses!! If you do, just wait.. That next foal will step on your toes with its sharp little foot!!
Thanks a lot for ... By: mysticpasos. on 30 Sep 10, 14:29:16 Thanks a lot for the compliment. Check out the ImagineaHorse web? site to see some amazing things Allen's horses happily do as a result of foal imprinting and positive reinforcement. Dr. Miller (who started all the foal imprinting) has endorsed Allen's methods as the best around. I'll never be done learning. I'll just run out of time.
@mysticpasos; thast ... By: KisaKittyLove. on 27 Sep 10, 20:22:55 @mysticpasos; thast great, i always wanted a horse of my own,? but we live in the city . but atleast i take lessons :) The white horse is pretty :)
Just thought? I'd ... By: mysticpasos. on 27 Sep 10, 13:30:52 Just thought? I'd let you know that I took Prince to the Pacific Ocean this month and he is in the short Sept 210 Play Date at Coast video I made of our trip posted under Mysticpasos. The colt did just great. There were things that shook him (kites, surfboards, in coming waves) but he would drift away from danger while still facing it and check in with me. I couldn't ask for more from a young horse.
Yes I? am a big ... By: horshooer. on 11 Sep 10, 17:27:41 Yes I? am a big believer in Natural Horsemanship and imprinting foals... I have see it done several ways... and this is the best I''ve seen.... wish I could work for you!
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Earn your horse's respect and learn to communicate with your body language through liberty & ground work in the round pen. Find your balance point on the horse, learn to move with your horse and communicate through your body language, focus, energy & relaxation.
The round pen gives ... By: mysticpasos. on 06 Sep 11, 00:25:52 The round pen gives your horse liberty in a small space - freedom within limits; choices with consequences. With a halter and lead line you can build a strong bond. Start by harmonizing with your horse in the pasture, keeping slack in your lead line. She stops, you stop, she walks, you walk. Do this until your mare checks in with you with an eye or? ear, then lift your rein and suggest that she go off in that direction, relaxing and going with her. Teach her to follow a feel.
I really want a ... By: siarrahbabey14. on 05 Sep 11, 13:50:30 I really want a bond with my horse that people can see. But I find it hard to do without a round pen where I board her. And the arena doesn't have a gate from the pasture next? door. Wt can I do to bond with my horse? PLEASE HELP!
and my horse is a? ... By: myahorning12. on 09 Apr 11, 21:44:48 and my horse is a? american quarter horse
Sounds like a great ... By: mysticpasos. on 01 Mar 11, 15:42:29 Sounds like a great ride and your mare showed you a lot of trust and respect, happy to follow your leadership. The clearer you are in your body language, the softer and happier she will be to do as? you ask and, as you discovered, that is a fabulous feeling. Have fun.
So..... how did it ... By: mysticpasos. on 27 Feb 11, 05:10:11 So..... how did it go? Just? curious.
You need to teach ... By: mysticpasos. on 23 Feb 11, 03:20:11 You need to teach your horse to mirror your energy and relaxation and how to project a driving energy and a drawing energy. If you want your horse to come to you, walk a circle that will bring you maybe 20 feet behind the horse. To keep an eye on you, your horse will turn its head or body to face you. When it does, back away, creating a draw. If the horse starts toward you, turn and walk away, creating a stronger draw.? When the horse reaches you, just stand and rub it softly.
Glad you liked the ... By: mysticpasos. on 18 May 10, 01:13:06 Glad you liked the video. ? It does create a wonderful relationship with the horse. Thanks for commenting.
this is awesome. I ... By: lapazfarms1. on 15 May 10, 23:14:26 this is awesome. I have learned and practice these training techniques with my horses and clients horses. It truly is a key to? respect, harmony, and a happy trusting partnership with the equine.
My name is Tori!? By: myhorserocks100. on 13 May 10, 00:03:14 My name is Tori!?
I used to ride this ... By: pikkparis. on 16 Mar 10, 14:29:34 I used to ride this girl's horse. She was very very hyper and would never walk in a relaxed manner... I rode her for 1-2 years. I noticed that the bridle was dry and too big. so once, I tried to ride her without the bitt and only in the head-thing you usually lead/tie up horses with. I've had long trips with her riding w only? that and without a saddle, and she was another horse. She was a lamb and listen to every movement/thought you made.the owner never gave her a chance
33 years old? That ... By: mysticpasos. on 10 Mar 10, 21:49:58 33 years old? That is beyond the normal life expectancy of a horse. Is he sound enough to work? If so, then let him go back to the barn and make him work there, doing circles or figure eights. The barn becomes a place of work rather than rest. Then ride him out again and let him graze away from the barn. If a horse backs up, you can say "great -? back up some more for me" until he asks to go forward. Running under trees means you don't control his feet so practice that in a safe place first.
I have just began ... By: geocachelinda. on 10 Mar 10, 21:26:18 I have just began riding again? after several years. I have had a few lessons but am not an experienced rider. We started leasing an old quarter horse (33 yrs old) and this horse will not do what I ask, he will only go as far as he wants and then tries to return to the barn. When I try and stop him and turn him, he backs up instead. Another horse I rode was the same way, wanting to go back and running me under trees! The old horse knocked my husband right off under a tree. Any suggestions?
thanks you so much: ... By: DeeJayandClover455. on 18 Dec 09, 03:13:16 thanks you so much:)?
I doubt that he ... By: mysticpasos. on 17 Dec 09, 05:36:32 I doubt that he forgot. Horses may wake up happy & engaged, or grumpy & distracted. Liberty gives my horse a chance to move his feet, discover that I control his movement, choose to sync up with my energy and relaxation and ask to be with? me. Sometimes it takes one turn of the round pen for the horse to elect me as its leader. Sometimes it takes more. Until the horse chooses to follow my feel & energy at liberty, I don't get on its back. If you are consistent, he'll become consistent too.
everytime i join up ... By: DeeJayandClover455. on 17 Dec 09, 03:19:27 everytime i join up with my horse, the next day he acts like he did before i gained his trust. its like he forgets it. Then i have to start from the beginning all over? again:(
do you have any tips?
thank u for ur kind ... By: evita565. on 05 Dec 09, 21:55:02 thank u for ur kind reply))i am? looking forward to ur new videos))i like them!))
A horse's eyes & ... By: mysticpasos. on 04 Dec 09, 23:00:33 A horse's eyes & ears tell you where their attention is focused. Tension shows up in worry lines? around the eyes, the whites of the eyes showing, tight lips, tight neck (often high), feet whacking the ground, pogo stick gaits, clamped tails...... It is all part of a big package. If their head, ears, neck and lower lip are relaxed, they are relaxed. The physical shows you the emotional. Take some time to just watch horses communicating with other horses. You'll begin to read them.
i am the beginner, ... By: evita565. on 04 Dec 09, 18:59:49 i am the beginner,but i am really into horses))i go to school to ride them 3 times a week,but sometimes i dont know how to understand a horse...i always ask my teacher about horse bodylanguage..i realy like the way u treat ur horses and it would be so great? if u could share more of ur knowledge about horse body language...please)))sorry for my english..
Glad you like my ... By: mysticpasos. on 04 Dec 09, 01:57:06 Glad you like my videos. What additional videos would interest you??
i love ur videos! ... By: evita565. on 03 Dec 09, 01:54:12 i love ur videos!plaese? make more!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you liked my ... By: mysticpasos. on 27 Nov 09, 01:17:48 Glad you liked my videos. I hope they give? a feel for this style of communication.
I like the way ... By: vivaloriflamme. on 26 Nov 09, 22:11:33 I like the way you've made your videos- a bit of? text, then a photo example. Very clear, easy to remember.
I hope that works ... By: mysticpasos. on 11 Sep 09, 00:17:12 I hope that works for you. I can tell that you love barrel racing, but think how dangerous it is to have your horse rear with you. ? Trying to win a race isn't worth getting you or your horse hurt. Take some time to build your relationship and foundation so he can give you the speed you want with harmony and control. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
You? are truly ... By: x1moose1x. on 10 Sep 09, 20:59:10 You? are truly amazing:) I will let you know how my barrel race goes Saturday, I think part of my problem is me expecting him to rear on me, which is making him do it. I'll try to relax and keep him calm:) I hope this works, I would have to sell him if he hasn't improved :(
Let me know how it ... By: mysticpasos. on 10 Sep 09, 01:50:17 Let me know how it goes with your boy. When a horse gets scared, his adrenaline shoots right up into us, making us tight. Knowing that, I've trained myself to breath deeply when something goes wrong. When I sigh, it sends oxygen to my muscles and relaxes them. Try it. Horses bolt for lots of reasons, but one reason they continue racing away is because their human is tight. When? you calmed down, so could your horse. The predator on his back wasn't scared, so he didn't have to be.
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By: rebeccaBGroup. on 27 Jan 12, 16:09:33
Awesome video. ? I do not have horses, but love to watch the videos. I see so many things that relate to how Cesar Milan uses with his dog techniques. I have used the exercise, discipline and affection with my dog and it really works. My dog and have a tight bond now, and my husband just doesn't get it and is jealous. That's certainly not my intention. Animals live in the moment, and as humans we should too. I respect those who "get it". Cruelty serves no master.
By: Pachetaa. on 13 Dec 11, 23:18:08
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By: Pachetaa. on 13 Dec 11, 23:17:13
I hate videos without the song´s name? :(((
By: levans0277. on 27 Jul 11, 15:03:05
Did anyone notice the man & horse are working in an open area that is not fenced? If the hosre was not happy, he could easily take off. I have a Lipizzan gelding that I have done similiar? things with. This video inspires me to expand what we have accomplished so far.
By: mooie135. on 18 Jul 11, 06:04:43
It's so funny to see all the different perspectives..... You can show the same thing to a group of people? and everyone interprets it differently depending on their level of awareness. Spins me out!!
By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:53:32
...and you don't end up with a suppressed horse. You end up with an equal partner that willingly recognizes that you are the leader. Not their master they must submit to for fear of being run ragged. You end up being their leader, but their friend as well. Some one they? can play with but also someone they want to please. I rarely need anything more than just myself when doing ground work with my horse. My horse half the time treats work in the round pen as play time.
By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:47:08
...will ever work to anything besides the person's disadvantage. The first farrier I used when I got him tried bullying him into behaving. My horse got worse every time he came out. The third and final time I used that farrier my horse threw out the guy's back. Every time my horse manages to push my buttons, I just have to tie him somewhere and just? walk away, because once I start getting into a mindset to force him to do what I want, it's just game over. You use join up correctly...
By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:42:31
that? the person should ever move in and apply pressure on the horse. Join up is not something that can be properly utilized with a horse that does not change gaits and direction easily without the person having to move in to apply pressure. Proper join up is something that can be done in any space - round pen, arena, pasture. It does not force submission. My horse is anything but submissive. With him our relationship is very much so I ask, I don't demand. Bullying is not something...
By: FredTheCloud. on 26 Jun 11, 18:37:13
Proper join up does not run run run run run the horse until? they submit, nor is it a one way street when it comes to respect. When a horse really doesn't want to come in, there is a point long before running them hard when it's time to just move on to something else and come back to the round pen later. Respect in join up is a two way street, the horse respects the person's space, and the person respects the horse's space as well. It's only when the horse moves into the person's space
By: Marixxen2. on 25 Jun 11, 12:55:56
... the horse' natural pride and "noble" being. You can see how this horse allow itself to leave? and voluntary come back WITHOUT submitting (something which isn't allowed in "proper" join-up as you call it) The horse can of course "recover" from join-up and be playful, but the concept of join-up is to keep the horse submited and the be a "leader" (or just a "bully" the horse has to obey )
By: Marixxen2. on 25 Jun 11, 12:46:02
yes, join-up is about choice, but when the options are as few as they are in a roundpen, there're little to choose between. I have used join-up myself, and know how it's done and the concept of it. The horse has only a few opitions. Run og submit. Respekt is earned through trust,? not pressure. And respekt is not subordination and obedience. It has to be mutual. And forcing someone to rund, is not mutual respekt. Beacuse join-up is about submition, it will suppress the horse' ....
By: FredTheCloud. on 23 Jun 11, 19:00:10
obviously you have never seen join up used properly if your reason for thinking it has not been used with this horse because the horse is "happy and playful." Join up is a lot about choice when used properly. The horse has to choose to accept the person as the herd leader, and choose to want to come in and be near that person and to follow them freely. I personally use join up and I can assure you my? horse is quite happy and playful
By: MomentsCherished. on 01 Jun 11, 20:29:42
Beautiful. I agree,? he could have done without the tapping of the stick, but whatever he does is obviously working for him and his beautiful horse. Whatever floats his figurative boat.
By: rarebird62. on 31 May 11, 00:49:37
This is a dream of mine to do this with my horse and pony would be just absolutely awsome..... I LOVE THIS VIDEO I'm posted it on? FB many times....This is a dream...my dream with My horse.
By: ThePippers. on 23 Apr 11, 21:22:40
Amazing! I reallt lost my words.. It's much like seeing Alexander playing with his horses :D ?
By: enmonjea. on 28 Mar 11, 14:08:53
How can anybody? look at this and not see the horse is having a blast playing with him? Gorgeous video.
By: Marixxen2. on 04 Mar 11, 14:47:54
where did? you get the video? =)
By: isanyone1niceanymore. on 17 Feb 11, 02:45:51
Totally....? awesome
By: Marixxen2. on 12 Feb 11, 16:42:12
I agree with at every point, exept one. i doubt join-up has? been used on this horse. The horse looks, to me, way to happy and playful for that. This horse truly has a choise, and he knows =)
By: Marixxen2. on 12 Feb 11, 16:37:35
ok...? Who the hell dislike this???!!!!
By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:10:37
(continued) Therefore, the horses reward at the end of this video is coming back to its trainer. And because it hasn't been hit with the stick as a punishment, this horse will never associate the stick with anything negative, and therefore will not go 'dead' to its touch. The horse will simply view the stick as an aid, similar to the way that a rider uses his/her legs to? give aids when riding.
By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:10:17
(continued..) If you prefer, it's almost a kind of join up technique. You push the horse away to make him/her believe that you are a good herd leader. Once the horse has decided you are a good herd leader, it will give you signs that it wants to be friends, and that's when you? let the horse come back to you.
By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:09:36
(...continued) With trick ponies, the stick is used as a main aid. It commands the horse and? it is also used as a punishment. If the horse does something wrong, it is hit with the stick. Therefore, the horse associates the stick with negativity and pain. Throughout this video, the horse communicates with the trainer through body language. You see the way the horse licks its lips constantly? That's a sign that the horse wants to 'become one' with the trainer and be with him.
By: Horseylover118. on 08 Dec 10, 19:08:26
I'm no expert, but this is the way I've interpreted it: I can understand your point, but in this video the stick is not used as a punishment or even as an aid. Here, you see the stick being used as a guide. The main aids are coming from the humans general communication (body language and voice commands). The stick itself is simply used to give the horse more precise aids where necessary, if the horse gets confused or doesn't understand what the trainer wants. (continued...)?