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22.05.2010 Wiesbaden/ Germany; Sequences were filmed within a few hours at the dressage warming up area. The FEI- Steward was mostly lost or invisible- don't know ;) The riders in this video are from Germany, Netherlands and UK.
these horses look ... By: Bailarsonsa. on 29 Jan 12, 23:21:42 these horses look often so stiff...especially in the canter...?
Na ja, dann wissen ... By: Buckaroossunnymagic. on 16 Nov 11, 18:11:04 Na ja, dann wissen wir doch jetzt alle? mal wieder, wer unsere Vorbilder sind und wem wir alle nacheifern wollen, oder??? Und sowas vertritt unsere Nation...echt peinlich!
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... By: 3Brunel. on 03 Nov 11, 09:59:51 @annaunddaslicht
Hey du Drogensüchtiger!
Ich quäle keine Tiere! Alles im gesetzlichen Rahmen, offen in der Reithalle, für alle sichtbar!
Seit wann sind Gerte und Sporen verboten??????????????
Wahrscheinlich nimmst? du Drogen!!!!
Schau dir mal lieber an wie es den Schweinen geht, bevor du dein nächstes Schnitzel frisst!!!
Und lerne mal deutsch, du Vollhorst!
Ein strenger Reiter
@3Brunel du bist? ... By: annaunddaslicht. on 02 Nov 11, 22:58:54 @3Brunel du bist? bestimmt so einer wie Dressurreiter2000 und wohafu...Vollidioten,die alle verarschen.
@3Brunel Verarsch ... By: annaunddaslicht. on 02 Nov 11, 22:56:30 @3Brunel Verarsch die Leute woanders xD . 1.Ein guter Dressurreiter hat? den "Gaul" auch ohne Rollkur voll im Griff. 2.Speziell spitze Sporen?Wo gibts sowas ?Es gibt mehr oder weniger scharfe Sporen aber keine,die besonders spitz sind.3.Gerten mit Metalleinsatz gibts auch nicht zu kaufen und wenn Gerten sind zur verfeinerung der Hilfen da und nicht zum Durchparieren.Doofes Geschwätz...wie gesagt:verarsch die Leute woanders!
hey, darf ich das ... By: OdinlovesMelena. on 24 Oct 11, 18:54:41 hey, darf ich das video? für mein video haben? NATÜRLICH nenne ich dich auch :*
LG
so sexy.? ummm By: za22by. on 05 Sep 11, 12:37:54 so sexy.? ummm
@3Brunel Und hier ... By: FiFistar25. on 01 Sep 11, 18:57:23 @3Brunel Und hier sieht man einen? Menschen, der entweder Aufmerksamkeit braucht ODER hier gerade Tierquälerei zugegeben hat und noch dazu, sollte nicht der erste Punkt zutreffen, keine Ahnung von dem Lebewesen Pferd hat. Ich denke, er soll sich aussuchen, was er sein will, nicht?
durch die rollkur ... By: 3Brunel. on 27 Aug 11, 09:00:19 durch die rollkur wird der gaul gefügig gemacht, das ist absolut ok, bin selbst dressurreiter und wende rollkur stetig und konsequent an! Der Reiter beherscht den gaul und nicht umgedreht!Zusätzlich benutze ich speziell? spitze Sporen, die den Gaul wenn nötig antreiben!Meine Gerte hat am Ende einen Metalleinsatz, habe damit gute Erfahrungen gemacht, der gaul pariert!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ich könnte heulen.. ... By: leleleah1. on 12 Aug 11, 17:26:05 Ich könnte heulen....maaaaan !! :( Ich kann diese traurigen augen nicht länger? mit ansehen !
extrem aufgefallen ... By: trixtraxart. on 09 Aug 11, 16:34:21 extrem aufgefallen ist mir das auch bei Senta Kirchhoff auf dem Abreitplatz in Verden. Als nach 30 min der Steward angesprochen wurde verließ die Dame sehr schnell den Platz...arme Pferde!! Ansonsten waren? der >Großteil der Reiter sehr ordentlich auf den öffentlichen Plätzen!
GRAUENHAFT!!!!!!!!! ... By: Vicky32782011. on 23 Jul 11, 13:37:43 GRAUENHAFT!!!!!!!!!!?
Die Reiterin [ ... By: mauseminchen. on 13 Jul 11, 18:36:05 Die Reiterin [zweite Reiter mit dem braunen] reitet keine? Rollkur, nur mal so zur Info...
Das selbe Bild 2011 ... By: Beccy236. on 24 Jun 11, 08:53:20 Das selbe Bild 2011.
Ich konnte mir das nicht anschauen. Teilweiße hatten die Pferde die Zunge? raushägen!!! Am liebsten hätte ich diese leute vom Pferd geholt.
sofort den reitern ... By: schronnel. on 14 Jun 11, 17:15:10 sofort den reitern ein gebiss in? mund schieben, den kopf bis an die brust ziehen und dann sollen die ma 10 kilometer damit laufen..
das kann? doch echt ... By: xoxFranziixox. on 10 Jun 11, 17:35:19 das kann? doch echt nicht wahrsein!
Sobald die Stewarts ... By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:18:23 Sobald die Stewarts nicht da sind reiten alle unfair !! Manchen Leuten sollte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbieten!!?
Sobald der Stewart ... By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:16:24 Sobald der Stewart nicht da? ist reiten alle unfair ist doch klar !!! Manchen Leuten solte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbieten!!!
Sobald der Stewart ... By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:16:04 Sobald der Stewart nicht da ist reiten? alle unfair ist doch klar !!! Manchen Leuten solte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbietn!!!
omg ich hätte? nie ... By: LEAR1992. on 02 May 11, 18:09:15 omg ich hätte? nie gedacht, dass kai sowas mit seinen pferden macht :o obwohl der schimmel, wie ich finde, auch im volti immer zu kurz ausgebunden ist :(schon schade sowas zu sehen ...!
was bringt die ... By: MrsZwutschgerl. on 25 Mar 11, 19:35:51 was bringt die Rollkur eigendlich ?
Eines kann ichs agen sie schaut 1 scheiße aus und die pferde? tun mir leid. es kann dann ja gar nicht mehr laufen.
Sagen die Richter denn gar nichts ?
sowas ist schon ... By: GreenGirlify1. on 05 Mar 11, 18:02:13 sowas ist schon sehr schlimm. warum tun solche? menschen sowas ?!
Il? ne faut ... By: jacquesVOCHE. on 31 Dec 10, 15:59:58 Il? ne faut vraiment pas aimer les chevaux pour les travailler comme cela.
HONTE A SON CAVALIER;
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@lizzyj9386 The? ... By: CameoRose. on 10 Jun 11, 03:55:33 @lizzyj9386 The? FEI banned rollkur last year.
the horse? it's ... By: 5nicole4. on 12 May 11, 14:39:13 the horse? it's tail is very relaxed thouh,
I fucking HATE that ... By: futzl77. on 25 Apr 11, 08:59:27 I fucking HATE that stupid woman!!!! in fact I hate everyone that treats their horse that way! It does nothing for the animal but forcing it into? submisson
its sad because ... By: lizzyj9386. on 06 Apr 11, 13:59:08 its sad because other riders see her riding like that and think well if she is doing it I can get away with doing it too. Horrible, Im losing faith in judges and FEI for not taking care of this issue. Lots of money and competitions shouldn't be in front of the horses welfare ever.?
Its terrible? ! By: IvanaLisaFox. on 25 Mar 11, 20:50:52 Its terrible? !
The most of the? ... By: annaunddaslicht. on 25 Mar 11, 19:59:52 The most of the? horses in the video are ridden in the hyperflexion position....it´s terrible
i bet that with ... By: maclaydreamer87. on 07 Feb 11, 21:50:47 i bet that with these horses that are made to hold their heads in this position for so long, that if you let them stretch? their neck out long and low, it would crack so loud!
Please? read "The? ... By: Vision10335. on 17 Nov 10, 09:38:07 Please? read "The? end of the idealisme around Gerd Heuschmann" here? :
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Dont think youve ... By: jjclimb69. on 28 Jan 10, 21:46:56 Dont think youve done your job properly! Borstel found that horses are more fearful/dangerous to? ride. McGreevy found there was visionary/respiratory impairment. Warendorf found calcifications of vertebrae/skull. Psychologically-conflict behaviours arose, also learned helplessness due to overshadowing of stimulus cues (aids) such as simultaneous [and overt] leg/rein pressure. CAMPAIGN TO STOP IT!
this? is bad for ... By: Claudka13. on 28 Jan 10, 10:33:13 this? is bad for horse.
Oh, and I forgot to ... By: canterpir0uette. on 24 Dec 09, 18:18:47 Oh, and I forgot to mention Dressage dates far back to The Greeks (ie: Xenophon in 360 B.C "On the Art? of Horsmanship") to even as far back as 800 B.C. So really? It's based solely on Art and the eye of the beholder?
With a sport ... By: canterpir0uette. on 24 Dec 09, 08:42:25 With a sport becoming more popular, money is more important apparently than the rules that are still supposedly enforced. They're changing the rules to allow? the circus to continue. The judges are awarding this mockery to either not rock the boat or not ruin their own careers. Regardless, it does not belong in any discipline. It goes against what true Dressage teaches anyway. Why are we SO focused on the head and neck? When did this happen? Did everyone pick up Baucher's book or something?
I have to disagree ... By: canterpir0uette. on 24 Dec 09, 08:29:50 I have to disagree also that Correct is whatever we find beautiful. The Masters knew what they were doing when it came to the horse's anatomy and biomechanics. If the Greeks studied anatomy, does that say that the masters well over 300 years ago didn't have access to this information? Legs doing just the work by snapping higher just goes to show that these horses weren't taught to sit and carry themselves properly. In a true piaffe, the horse grows taller in the forehand? - incl. other movements.
Since there is ... By: Floortjahh. on 04 Dec 09, 18:29:27 Since there is evidence it is abuse, and that it is benefitial (because there is, werther you like it or not), should riders be accused of? animal abuse? That is a line I believe we should not cross. You wouldn't convict a murderer bc it seems like he's done it. You need hard evidence. And unless those horses in question undergo a series of tests, there will not be any. If animal abuse is really anticipated, FEI could force such testing in court. But to this day, no one has been able to do so
if all factors are ... By: Floortjahh. on 04 Dec 09, 18:18:34 if all factors are good, and rk is achieved with a soft hand, the muscles around the throat stay relaxed (as they always should be) and thus not blocking the airway.
In the most recent? research, done with correct rk hormonal tests (among others)show there is no physical pain involved. reports of this can be found in scientific bookstores. I personally don't believe it is mental abuse, but I agree, it's debatable. More research is needed.
Here we go again... ... By: Floortjahh. on 04 Dec 09, 18:02:56 Here we go again... In all research that "proves" physical pain and limited breathing, rk was reached by extra reigns or other methods (such as yanking). This is stated clearly in every report I have ever read on the subject (pretty much every report out there since that's my job). However, this is not how a? correct rk is achieved. It must be achieved from total releaxation after years of correct training and even then, a horse needs an exeptional talent.
Rollkur is most ... By: BanRollkur. on 04 Dec 09, 16:33:22 Rollkur is most definitely abuse of the horse. Abuse? by mental abuse ..the learned helplessness form.
Abuse by yanking on their mouths to get them in the position in the first place - don't say they don't yank because it is quite blatantly not true.
Abuse because it is limiting their breathing - which has been proved by vets.
Abuse according to the FEI own admission by keeping the horse in RK for long periods - as has been documented many times.
Now tell me it's not hurting the horse!!
I said I just ... By: Dressage4Jumpers. on 01 Dec 09, 03:18:56 I said I just prefer Classical dressage to Rollkur. I know there is no point in trying to change your mind so Im not going to waste my time on someone I dont know. I did ask you some questions and learn a? bit but I still dont like it. Thats it. End of story. GOOD BYE
right, but no one ... By: Floortjahh. on 30 Nov 09, 20:06:48 right, but no one seems to be able to state why. As the great philosophers say, an opion without arguments to back it, is not worthy of existence.
And I can tell you dont care, or you would try to change my mind, to make this world a better place for horses, as you say you believe. And if youd really care, you would want to learn more, instead of turning the other cheek. As I've only stated facts, not opinions. Ive never told you what to believe,? so i dont understand why youre so sensitive.
I really dont care ... By: Dressage4Jumpers. on 28 Nov 09, 21:04:14 I really dont care about this anymore. I never got "nasty" about anything and Im sorry if I lost respect for you after you started attacking me when I simply stated my opinion that I didnt like rollkur. I never wanted to "argue" or "debate" with you or whatever either so thats why I didnt have "many" arguments. I have my opinion and you will never? change that. Please get over it and leave me alone! By the looks of the ratings on our comments, Im not the only one who thinks this anyway.
So ive put up a vid ... By: Floortjahh. on 28 Nov 09, 17:39:08 So ive put up a vid of old fotos, cuz i said youd? love to see me ride. I quite enjoyed youre vid as well, very cute horses.
Just dont doubt my love of horses. Just bc we have a different opion doesnt mean you have to get nasty. You can still respect each others arguments (even tho you didnt have many).
Dude, the FEI ... By: Floortjahh. on 17 Nov 09, 16:45:57 Dude, the FEI report on this states the same thing! I am an FEI researcher, and I've never seen it happen during the tests we've run. Why is it due to rollkur, huh? You couldn't say, bc it's not.? Ask your trainer.
How can you not know we are debating? Do you not know the word?
And why are you over the converstaion? I'm not the one offending anyone!
i have ridden with ... By: Dressage4Jumpers. on 17 Nov 09, 02:19:07 i have ridden with an fei trainer that never had those problems becuase she was from germany and a classical rider. and i never knew we where debating but ok. i honestly am totally over this conversation. u? can continue thinkin ur right and im wrong thats fine with me
Maybe it doesn't ... By: Floortjahh. on 17 Nov 09, 00:05:15 Maybe it doesn't happen at your barn, bc no one rides professional levels, thus no one's using dubble bridels. Chances that the tongue gets stuck is higher with dubble bridles. Tongues get stuck regularly (although not that long!)
But that's not the point. The point is it had nothing to do with the hyperflexion ridden. Yes it was stupid of Patrik not to notice before. yes poor horse, that can't have been fun. Yes it should never have happene.
But it is not due to? the way the horse was ridden.
Why not? All I'm ... By: Floortjahh. on 16 Nov 09, 23:59:13 Why not? All I'm saying that if rollkur is? not hurting the horse, it's ok. What is wrong with that?! How does that mean I don't love horses?
I guess you never had debate classes. In a debate you never attack the person. Only the arguments, with sensible, well over thought comments.
Instead you choose to insult me. That is a sign of people who are running out of sensible things to say. Or is that a lie?
But min? it's not By: nancyhinessulek. on 19 Jan 12, 03:03:01 But min? it's not
I somewhat disagree ... By: nancyhinessulek. on 19 Jan 12, 03:02:17 I somewhat disagree with this? because rollkur can be cruel but if it's down properly it's ok. For a couple of seconds it fine but minutes is ok. It is a way of training.
Rollkur is a method ... By: jthomas6694. on 03 Nov 11, 21:07:44 Rollkur is a method for attaining optimal suppleness only to be used for a few minutes and, like yoga, not to be forced on a horse that has not gradually worked up to it.? You people see this footage with no context and start spouting off at the mouth like you have a clue. Bottom line: abused horses don't win Olympic Gold in Dressage. How many grand prix horses have you made? ......exactly. You are all a bunch of nancies.
@JustForFun443254 ... By: horsesrotflol. on 30 Oct 11, 21:46:43 @JustForFun443254 Good for you! I hope she's? forgotten her past.
Rollkur ? I say NO ... By: dimensonara. on 25 Oct 11, 08:48:55 Rollkur ? I say NO ! '' ROLLKUR '' is bad -.- ! We don't want to have the Head on the Belly ?! And the Horses don't want it too. Rollkur is for silly , disabled , bad, and TOTALLY BRAINLESS HUMANS !!! -.- When you? think this too , like this , Please.. together against Rollkur !
before i got my ... By: JustForFun443254. on 26 Apr 10, 23:23:20 before i got my beautiful arabian chestnut, she was a hardcore dressage horse, and she coldnt lift her head high or stretch her? neck out because her neck bones and muscles were that stiff!! We finally had a vet and a horse chiropracter come out and the vet said that if we had never adopted her she wouldve died in about another month from suffiation!! but now shes a happy playful western riding horse!!!!
I can't believe so- ... By: platypussy79. on 08 Apr 10, 05:08:38 I can't believe so-called professionals at the top of their sport use these methods. The FEI must step in and start yellow carding these bastards. They do it in eventing where rollkur isn't widespread (to my knowledge), so? why don't they do it for dressage and showjumping???
Thank you for your ... By: GoingForBroken. on 23 Feb 10, 04:49:46 Thank you for your support of sensitive, ethical horse training. Please look at my? videos.
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By: Bailarsonsa. on 29 Jan 12, 23:21:42
these horses look often so stiff...especially in the canter...?
By: Buckaroossunnymagic. on 16 Nov 11, 18:11:04
Na ja, dann wissen wir doch jetzt alle? mal wieder, wer unsere Vorbilder sind und wem wir alle nacheifern wollen, oder??? Und sowas vertritt unsere Nation...echt peinlich!
By: annaunddaslicht. on 03 Nov 11, 22:16:20
@3Brunel Also wenn du mal auf meine Seite guckst dann merkst du,dass ich Veganerin bin=D. Lern lesen du Spasst und informier dich? mal über die Gesetze bevor du Scheiße laberst.
By: 3Brunel. on 03 Nov 11, 09:59:51
@annaunddaslicht Hey du Drogensüchtiger! Ich quäle keine Tiere! Alles im gesetzlichen Rahmen, offen in der Reithalle, für alle sichtbar! Seit wann sind Gerte und Sporen verboten?????????????? Wahrscheinlich nimmst? du Drogen!!!! Schau dir mal lieber an wie es den Schweinen geht, bevor du dein nächstes Schnitzel frisst!!! Und lerne mal deutsch, du Vollhorst! Ein strenger Reiter
By: annaunddaslicht. on 02 Nov 11, 22:58:54
@3Brunel du bist? bestimmt so einer wie Dressurreiter2000 und wohafu...Vollidioten,die alle verarschen.
By: annaunddaslicht. on 02 Nov 11, 22:56:30
@3Brunel Verarsch die Leute woanders xD . 1.Ein guter Dressurreiter hat? den "Gaul" auch ohne Rollkur voll im Griff. 2.Speziell spitze Sporen?Wo gibts sowas ?Es gibt mehr oder weniger scharfe Sporen aber keine,die besonders spitz sind.3.Gerten mit Metalleinsatz gibts auch nicht zu kaufen und wenn Gerten sind zur verfeinerung der Hilfen da und nicht zum Durchparieren.Doofes Geschwätz...wie gesagt:verarsch die Leute woanders!
By: OdinlovesMelena. on 24 Oct 11, 18:54:41
hey, darf ich das video? für mein video haben? NATÜRLICH nenne ich dich auch :* LG
By: za22by. on 05 Sep 11, 12:37:54
so sexy.? ummm
By: FiFistar25. on 01 Sep 11, 18:57:23
@3Brunel Und hier sieht man einen? Menschen, der entweder Aufmerksamkeit braucht ODER hier gerade Tierquälerei zugegeben hat und noch dazu, sollte nicht der erste Punkt zutreffen, keine Ahnung von dem Lebewesen Pferd hat. Ich denke, er soll sich aussuchen, was er sein will, nicht?
By: 3Brunel. on 27 Aug 11, 09:00:19
durch die rollkur wird der gaul gefügig gemacht, das ist absolut ok, bin selbst dressurreiter und wende rollkur stetig und konsequent an! Der Reiter beherscht den gaul und nicht umgedreht!Zusätzlich benutze ich speziell? spitze Sporen, die den Gaul wenn nötig antreiben!Meine Gerte hat am Ende einen Metalleinsatz, habe damit gute Erfahrungen gemacht, der gaul pariert!!!!!!!!!!!!
By: leleleah1. on 12 Aug 11, 17:26:05
Ich könnte heulen....maaaaan !! :( Ich kann diese traurigen augen nicht länger? mit ansehen !
By: trixtraxart. on 09 Aug 11, 16:34:21
extrem aufgefallen ist mir das auch bei Senta Kirchhoff auf dem Abreitplatz in Verden. Als nach 30 min der Steward angesprochen wurde verließ die Dame sehr schnell den Platz...arme Pferde!! Ansonsten waren? der >Großteil der Reiter sehr ordentlich auf den öffentlichen Plätzen!
By: Vicky32782011. on 23 Jul 11, 13:37:43
GRAUENHAFT!!!!!!!!!!?
By: mauseminchen. on 13 Jul 11, 18:36:05
Die Reiterin [zweite Reiter mit dem braunen] reitet keine? Rollkur, nur mal so zur Info...
By: Beccy236. on 24 Jun 11, 08:53:20
Das selbe Bild 2011. Ich konnte mir das nicht anschauen. Teilweiße hatten die Pferde die Zunge? raushägen!!! Am liebsten hätte ich diese leute vom Pferd geholt.
By: schronnel. on 14 Jun 11, 17:15:10
sofort den reitern ein gebiss in? mund schieben, den kopf bis an die brust ziehen und dann sollen die ma 10 kilometer damit laufen..
By: xoxFranziixox. on 10 Jun 11, 17:35:19
das kann? doch echt nicht wahrsein!
By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:18:23
Sobald die Stewarts nicht da sind reiten alle unfair !! Manchen Leuten sollte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbieten!!?
By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:16:24
Sobald der Stewart nicht da? ist reiten alle unfair ist doch klar !!! Manchen Leuten solte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbieten!!!
By: Wellyschatz. on 07 May 11, 12:16:04
Sobald der Stewart nicht da ist reiten? alle unfair ist doch klar !!! Manchen Leuten solte man den Umgang mit Pferden verbietn!!!
By: LEAR1992. on 02 May 11, 18:09:15
omg ich hätte? nie gedacht, dass kai sowas mit seinen pferden macht :o obwohl der schimmel, wie ich finde, auch im volti immer zu kurz ausgebunden ist :(schon schade sowas zu sehen ...!
By: MrsZwutschgerl. on 25 Mar 11, 19:35:51
was bringt die Rollkur eigendlich ? Eines kann ichs agen sie schaut 1 scheiße aus und die pferde? tun mir leid. es kann dann ja gar nicht mehr laufen. Sagen die Richter denn gar nichts ?
By: GreenGirlify1. on 05 Mar 11, 18:02:13
sowas ist schon sehr schlimm. warum tun solche? menschen sowas ?!
By: jacquesVOCHE. on 31 Dec 10, 15:59:58
Il? ne faut vraiment pas aimer les chevaux pour les travailler comme cela. HONTE A SON CAVALIER;