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Senate Democrats on Wednesday took the first major step toward a sweeping overhaul of the health care system in over a decade, pushing legislation despite strenuous GOP opposition and uncertainty about its provisions and costs. (June 17)
Perhaps it's a ... By: rasaxSF. on 27 Aug 09, 20:37:06 Perhaps it's a challenge to form a more congruent world view then - one that is more consistent between the words and reality.?
Stossel? You ... By: rasaxSF. on 27 Aug 09, 00:53:31 Stossel? You would've had slightly more credibility to stick? with social Darwinism, but you threw in one of the most discredited people on the boob-tube. Friedman? Speaking of discredited, haven't you bothered to read a paper anytime within the last year? Friedman economics is DOA. Back to Keynesian time for reality. And, Rand - Christ, that woman just needed some Valium.
How unfortunate your professors told you what to think. Mine explored critical thinking, & got my money's worth.
Not an Ayn Rand fan ... By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 23:10:13 Not an Ayn Rand fan, given the lineage going back to Herbert Spencer who was a total nut job. It's ironic how this is often cited as social Darwinism, but having nothing to do with Charles Darwin or natural selection. Social Darwinists tend to? confuse cause and effect; a common fallacy in reasoning.
Psychopathology is ... By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 22:57:49 Psychopathology is indeed psychology, just as adaptation is explained by biological anthropologist. Erich Fromm described greed in? terms of hording; a 20th c. phenomenon following the industrial revolution, and he equated it to incest. I think that's a fine description.
Interesting ... By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 02:16:08 Interesting revisionism, but even fails creative writing standards with an obvious cause & effect fallacy. It's peculiar & deplorable to rationalize greed. It's pathological & learned, not inherent.? I'd recommend enrolling in a basic cultural/bio anthropology course for developing a more accurate view of human evolution. My comments cannot be narcissistic when they're factually based. Narcissism by definition is to make assumptions about the world to suit your view, not how it is. Congrats.
Cooperation ... By: rasaxSF. on 25 Aug 09, 23:00:27 Cooperation required a more collective approach where greed is based purely on individualist motivations - too often at the expense of altruism, empathy and, yes, cooperation. Greed? isn't natural, and I stand by my earlier statement.
I disagree. Greed ... By: rasaxSF. on 25 Aug 09, 22:27:33 I disagree. Greed is not natural, but a learned pathological social behavior lacking empathy or any sense of altruism. Cooperation is required for social structures as an inherent part of our survival. Had our ancestors not cooperated with each other, they would've failed to function as a social group. Therefore, you cannot justify greed? and trivialize it with excuses. That's all they are - excuses. For solutions, a better approach is using our brain. Single-payer is the solution.
The Obama plan ... By: clusterfacker. on 07 Aug 09, 03:55:26 The Obama plan hopes to offer a public option, it's called competition, the thing Republicans claim to support. It's what you have in a truly free market, you have choices, and if the people choose the public option the private Insurance companies will have to lower their prices to compete, or they go out? of business. That's called a free market: what part of that do you not understand?
It is you who are ... By: Ontir. on 01 Aug 09, 21:45:45 It is you who are the liar. I said nothing? of Canada's cancer cure rate. I'm not in Sweden, I'm in the US. I've friends in a number of countries though, and none of them would want to be saddled with our crumbling healthcare system.
If you're going to criticize others use of English, double-check your own. "Hypocrite" has an "e" at the end. As one, you should know that.
I guess that I ... By: simplybe. on 20 Jul 09, 00:14:29 I guess that I missed the lesson growing up that health care, food, clothing, and housing was a right. I always thought that you had to earn them with hard work. Now I know there are exceptions but for the most part if you are able to hold a job you can find a way to get health care. Personally my job doesn't provide me with benefits so I buy? my own, which are totally affordable if I actually go to work.
Guess so.
I? ... By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:36:17 Guess so.
I? still think that greed is an influenced idea.
Ugh well ok I will ... By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:27:06 Ugh well ok I will agree that greed is a natural option for humans, but you have to agree that homosexuality is natural!?
Yea but you? could ... By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:09:48 Yea but you? could also make the argument that wearing clothes is natural.
Lucky you.
Greed ... By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 13:28:42 Lucky you.
Greed is not natural, you are just a? prick.
So how? are we ... By: pepsimannampepsi. on 18 Jul 09, 08:12:37 So how? are we going to pay for it?
This is impossible.
We were doing fine ... By: jazzx251. on 18 Jul 09, 02:19:50 We were doing fine until your greedy bankers ruined the world economy. America is to blame because it is a greedy country which screws over its own citizens, but its self-centred dicking around has massive consequences for the whole world.?
I saw my dentist ... By: jazzx251. on 18 Jul 09, 02:08:15 I saw my dentist today (NHS patients usually have a check up every 6 months) - I need two white fillings and a scale and polish.
Total cost £45.60 ($70)
To have that done privately would cost well over £150 ($200)
NHS dentistry isn't? free unless you're on welfare, but at least you know what it will cost (there are three price bands).
I pity anyone who needs a toothache seen to in America - the dentist can charge whatever he likes, and you'll pay it just to get rid of the pain.
not one dime? out ... By: BeantownJim. on 17 Jul 09, 22:30:46 not one dime? out of my pocket gl
Copy Europe:
" ... By: MyImago. on 15 Jul 09, 19:26:17 Copy Europe:
"According to the Economist the total US spend on health care is 15.4% of GDP including both state and private. With that it gets 2.6 doctors per 1,000 people, 3.3 hospital beds and its people live to an average age of 78.2. As a whole Europe spends 9.6% of GDP on health? care, has 3.9 doctors per 1,000 people, 6.6 hospital beds and live until they are 81.15 years old. The US has the most expensive health care system that seems not to be effective, which is very bizarre indeed.
if this system is ... By: Manorbis. on 14 Jul 09, 17:32:51 if this system is so good why are senators and congressmen exempt? Why do I need to take care of people that don't work, or have no drive to improve their lives? I work my butt off. and I will always do so? to make the best life for myself and my family. I don't expect someone to pay my way.
I also think US ... By: dewosdewos. on 07 Jul 09, 15:56:11 I also think US health companies have zero interest on a public and free health system because it means? a huge less of profits for them. Thats why they use to argue at mass media "bad communism is coming with public health system". For me is incomprehensible that the most important country in the world doesn't have such a basic and free health system. Health it shoud't be a privilege it is a right of the humanity. Do you really prefer your taxes goes to pay iraq war or weapons than doctors?
Sorry for my ... By: dewosdewos. on 07 Jul 09, 15:47:21 Sorry for my english. I am european, and my country has a capitalism system. But doesn't mean it is uncompatible with a social and public health care system wich is almost free and equal for everybody. And of course, there are also a parallele private system you can acces if you want to pay for it like US market. But the public system is also wich has the best resources because is actually the biggest "company" with the contribution of all citizens. regards? for american friends!
This has nothing to ... By: kinbad. on 06 Jul 09, 19:13:36 This has nothing to do with Socialist, Capitalist, communist,? Liberal, conservative. You need to think past all of this. We need to change the way we think. We are all responsible for each other, and must get along if we are to grow. If you feel you have to label what I'm talking about to make your point, fine, but your outlooks are negative and aren't doing anything to help anyone.
"If capitalism ... By: dperreaultyahoo. on 03 Jul 09, 22:10:05 "If capitalism treats some more equally than others, surely socialism treats EVERYONE equally? badly."
Socialized medicine ... By: dperreaultyahoo. on 03 Jul 09, 21:28:30 Socialized medicine goes directly against everything our country stands for, as does ALL socialism unless it benefits ALL citizens equally. The 16th amendment (progressive taxation) likewise violates the spirit of the FF. In fact, that is? why an Amendment was necessary since it stole the labor of some more than others.
The SCOTUS should have disallowed the 16th even WITH a vote from the people as it clearly violates the 10th amendment and indeed the entire spirit of the FF intentions.
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By: rasaxSF. on 27 Aug 09, 20:37:06
Perhaps it's a challenge to form a more congruent world view then - one that is more consistent between the words and reality.?
By: rasaxSF. on 27 Aug 09, 00:53:31
Stossel? You would've had slightly more credibility to stick? with social Darwinism, but you threw in one of the most discredited people on the boob-tube. Friedman? Speaking of discredited, haven't you bothered to read a paper anytime within the last year? Friedman economics is DOA. Back to Keynesian time for reality. And, Rand - Christ, that woman just needed some Valium. How unfortunate your professors told you what to think. Mine explored critical thinking, & got my money's worth.
By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 23:10:13
Not an Ayn Rand fan, given the lineage going back to Herbert Spencer who was a total nut job. It's ironic how this is often cited as social Darwinism, but having nothing to do with Charles Darwin or natural selection. Social Darwinists tend to? confuse cause and effect; a common fallacy in reasoning.
By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 22:57:49
Psychopathology is indeed psychology, just as adaptation is explained by biological anthropologist. Erich Fromm described greed in? terms of hording; a 20th c. phenomenon following the industrial revolution, and he equated it to incest. I think that's a fine description.
By: rasaxSF. on 26 Aug 09, 02:16:08
Interesting revisionism, but even fails creative writing standards with an obvious cause & effect fallacy. It's peculiar & deplorable to rationalize greed. It's pathological & learned, not inherent.? I'd recommend enrolling in a basic cultural/bio anthropology course for developing a more accurate view of human evolution. My comments cannot be narcissistic when they're factually based. Narcissism by definition is to make assumptions about the world to suit your view, not how it is. Congrats.
By: rasaxSF. on 25 Aug 09, 23:00:27
Cooperation required a more collective approach where greed is based purely on individualist motivations - too often at the expense of altruism, empathy and, yes, cooperation. Greed? isn't natural, and I stand by my earlier statement.
By: rasaxSF. on 25 Aug 09, 22:27:33
I disagree. Greed is not natural, but a learned pathological social behavior lacking empathy or any sense of altruism. Cooperation is required for social structures as an inherent part of our survival. Had our ancestors not cooperated with each other, they would've failed to function as a social group. Therefore, you cannot justify greed? and trivialize it with excuses. That's all they are - excuses. For solutions, a better approach is using our brain. Single-payer is the solution.
By: clusterfacker. on 07 Aug 09, 03:55:26
The Obama plan hopes to offer a public option, it's called competition, the thing Republicans claim to support. It's what you have in a truly free market, you have choices, and if the people choose the public option the private Insurance companies will have to lower their prices to compete, or they go out? of business. That's called a free market: what part of that do you not understand?
By: Ontir. on 01 Aug 09, 21:45:45
It is you who are the liar. I said nothing? of Canada's cancer cure rate. I'm not in Sweden, I'm in the US. I've friends in a number of countries though, and none of them would want to be saddled with our crumbling healthcare system. If you're going to criticize others use of English, double-check your own. "Hypocrite" has an "e" at the end. As one, you should know that.
By: simplybe. on 20 Jul 09, 00:14:29
I guess that I missed the lesson growing up that health care, food, clothing, and housing was a right. I always thought that you had to earn them with hard work. Now I know there are exceptions but for the most part if you are able to hold a job you can find a way to get health care. Personally my job doesn't provide me with benefits so I buy? my own, which are totally affordable if I actually go to work.
By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:36:17
Guess so. I? still think that greed is an influenced idea.
By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:27:06
Ugh well ok I will agree that greed is a natural option for humans, but you have to agree that homosexuality is natural!?
By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 22:09:48
Yea but you? could also make the argument that wearing clothes is natural.
By: ManicMuppets. on 19 Jul 09, 13:28:42
Lucky you. Greed is not natural, you are just a? prick.
By: pepsimannampepsi. on 18 Jul 09, 08:12:37
So how? are we going to pay for it? This is impossible.
By: jazzx251. on 18 Jul 09, 02:19:50
We were doing fine until your greedy bankers ruined the world economy. America is to blame because it is a greedy country which screws over its own citizens, but its self-centred dicking around has massive consequences for the whole world.?
By: jazzx251. on 18 Jul 09, 02:08:15
I saw my dentist today (NHS patients usually have a check up every 6 months) - I need two white fillings and a scale and polish. Total cost £45.60 ($70) To have that done privately would cost well over £150 ($200) NHS dentistry isn't? free unless you're on welfare, but at least you know what it will cost (there are three price bands). I pity anyone who needs a toothache seen to in America - the dentist can charge whatever he likes, and you'll pay it just to get rid of the pain.
By: BeantownJim. on 17 Jul 09, 22:30:46
not one dime? out of my pocket gl
By: MyImago. on 15 Jul 09, 19:26:17
Copy Europe: "According to the Economist the total US spend on health care is 15.4% of GDP including both state and private. With that it gets 2.6 doctors per 1,000 people, 3.3 hospital beds and its people live to an average age of 78.2. As a whole Europe spends 9.6% of GDP on health? care, has 3.9 doctors per 1,000 people, 6.6 hospital beds and live until they are 81.15 years old. The US has the most expensive health care system that seems not to be effective, which is very bizarre indeed.
By: Manorbis. on 14 Jul 09, 17:32:51
if this system is so good why are senators and congressmen exempt? Why do I need to take care of people that don't work, or have no drive to improve their lives? I work my butt off. and I will always do so? to make the best life for myself and my family. I don't expect someone to pay my way.
By: dewosdewos. on 07 Jul 09, 15:56:11
I also think US health companies have zero interest on a public and free health system because it means? a huge less of profits for them. Thats why they use to argue at mass media "bad communism is coming with public health system". For me is incomprehensible that the most important country in the world doesn't have such a basic and free health system. Health it shoud't be a privilege it is a right of the humanity. Do you really prefer your taxes goes to pay iraq war or weapons than doctors?
By: dewosdewos. on 07 Jul 09, 15:47:21
Sorry for my english. I am european, and my country has a capitalism system. But doesn't mean it is uncompatible with a social and public health care system wich is almost free and equal for everybody. And of course, there are also a parallele private system you can acces if you want to pay for it like US market. But the public system is also wich has the best resources because is actually the biggest "company" with the contribution of all citizens. regards? for american friends!
By: kinbad. on 06 Jul 09, 19:13:36
This has nothing to do with Socialist, Capitalist, communist,? Liberal, conservative. You need to think past all of this. We need to change the way we think. We are all responsible for each other, and must get along if we are to grow. If you feel you have to label what I'm talking about to make your point, fine, but your outlooks are negative and aren't doing anything to help anyone.
By: dperreaultyahoo. on 03 Jul 09, 22:10:05
"If capitalism treats some more equally than others, surely socialism treats EVERYONE equally? badly."
By: dperreaultyahoo. on 03 Jul 09, 21:28:30
Socialized medicine goes directly against everything our country stands for, as does ALL socialism unless it benefits ALL citizens equally. The 16th amendment (progressive taxation) likewise violates the spirit of the FF. In fact, that is? why an Amendment was necessary since it stole the labor of some more than others. The SCOTUS should have disallowed the 16th even WITH a vote from the people as it clearly violates the 10th amendment and indeed the entire spirit of the FF intentions.